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Erin E.'s avatar

Thank you for writing this. I asked my liberal teacher friends where their line was (everyone has a line) since they support their students' pronouns, not considering it a gateway to medicalizing children. Are they all for MAP? Minor attracted persons are fighting to be destigmatized ... that was about when I just had to quit twitter. I will show them this if it comes up again. Thank you for wording it so well. And I am so so sorry for your pain concerning your daughter. No parent should have to go through this.

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Anna Van Zee's avatar

As a former teacher, and school-based Clinician IV, I had to quit "the left".

I just do not want to be aligned with the misogyny and lunatic post-modern theories espoused by the left. I don't even recognize what passes as "the left" today, as opposed to when I was in college and grad school. I wouldn't last a day if I had to work today in the orgs and schools I used to. (Fortunately as a full-time farmer now, I have the benefit of sane surroundings!)

Massive upheaval like this does not happen naturally, this is a top-down driven movement that has taken over schools, media, government, and a great many online platforms, in a breathtakingly short period of time. Queer theory is a destructive, harmful, divisive paradigm, as is gender ideology and critical race theory. Who benefits from this? From destroying families and stable social structures? What's the end game here?

I follow substacks like this one and PITT, and my heart goes out to these parents. I can only imagine what it must be like to watch this destructive insanity take over one's child, and have her/him change into this person you can't even recognize. Thanks, Denton, for all you're sharing and compiling here - it's so important!

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Denton's avatar

Thank you for your feedback & sharing some of your experience of this Anna, and don't you worry, I will persist

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Denton's avatar

Thanks Erin, the teaching profession really worries me atm, so many young teachers get completely taken in by this. A lot of people who do QT 'lite" are absolutely horrified when they're exposed to the hardcore queer theorists and their ideas - many don't or won't believe it. Unfortunately, I've had to stare into the eye of the devil 'imself as part of my "re-education" in the gender gulags. Finding out how far that line stretches is always a challenge, by all means come back and report, if you like. Thanks again Erin

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MeMyselfandI's avatar

Thank you for writing this. It is very helpful to me as someone who is still early on the road and desperately hopes to avoid estrangement and that the actions we've taken preventatively will be enough to prevent the wedge. I am grateful that our shock moment came at a younger age than yours did, but my heart still breaks for what you are going through as it's one of my worst nightmares.

The fact that people are out there, actively working to break up families and to deny the reality of biological sex is wrong. I just hope enough people stand up and tell this minority extremist group that this is not acceptable soon enough that we see this generation become more conservative and lash out against the grooming and indoctrination present everywhere. I long for a day where you can go anywhere and do anything without seeing pronouns or hearing people talk about pronouns. I often find myself wondering how the gendered languages have handled this and whether people who speak a gendered language are less likely to be caught up in the nonsense of the QT fad. Hopefully this fad dies a fast and painful death.

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Ute Heggen's avatar

I hadn't heard the phrase, "epidemic of estrangement" before. This helps me immensely in this time of estrangement from my two grown sons, whom I got through college and generously gave thousands to for setting up their lives in early adulthood--all before 2015, when the "pronouns workshops" and social media influence, as well as the indoctrination of their wealthy, cross-sex ideating father landed in concert, causing them to tell me I'm a bigot and they can no longer talk to me. It is just so odd, my ex-husband is forgiven for his lies, his abandonment of us and his miserliness. I suppose, in their tech firms (both, and my ex, work in tech) they are "brave, courageous stars" who are justified in their mother erasure. As I see the cult go further and further out into the ozone, I have faith for reunion, perhaps in 8 years or so. Meanwhile I garden and count the butterflies--this year's count the highest ever, my planting and weeding bearing success. I've started "adopting" new family members, often lovely religious people, not bigots, not right-wingers, just people who can't figure out what's happening. They talk of banging on my sons' doors and scolding them for how they treat their mother. I have this fantasy that a "furry" will get promoted above my sons, in their jobs, and maybe the ridiculousness will dawn on them. When they call me up, asking to see me, they'll have to put up with the fact that I don't think I can be alone with them again until they can prove they'll be kind. My friends will insist on being there, to protect me, and motherhood.

Ute Heggen, author of In the Curated Woods (iuniverse.com/bookstore, AmazonUK 1st chapter free, kindle) uteheggengrasswidow.wordpress.com

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